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    February 15, 2010

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    Hi Laurie, I appreciated this topic! Two things I wanted to add I think are important that haven't been brought up.

    In the nonprofit sector there are more women than men, and more women in administrative positions than in management positions. There are quite a few women who have begun at an org in an administrative position and then worked up the ladder, or been promoted internally.

    In my experience, for many of those women they believed that was the expected career path. If they did a good job and waited their turn, they would eventually be noticed and rewarded. This attitude is not the same as the "ask for what you want" attitude -- the idea that you should ask for a promotion, or more responsiblity, or a raise, and always keep job opportunities open elsewhere.

    Another unfortunate trend I've noticed in the charitable sector is the perception (often untrue, but still there) that for some orgs, people who are promoted from within are not as valued as employees brought in from industry. I've watched many female friends wondering if their organization values their loyalty and long-term experience.

    For my male friends, negotiating seems less of a stress point. Is it easier for them to officially ask: "Well, I want to see this happen, or I'm moving on" because people expect men to play hard ball?

    I don't see the same ease with negotiation from my female friends. We talk about this a lot -- Loyalty to your org, being comfortable in a position, vs. striking out to discover what you're really worth.

    Hi Claire - thanks for your comment.

    I agree! This is a big and important subject and I'm delighted to see people contributing, debating and adding the perspective. It's a complex issue with lots of moving parts and influences. Perhaps if we keep discussing these things with open minds, we can all learn and do better!

    Thanks again for your comment... I really appreciate it!

    Hi Laurie, great blog! You've made me think of many remarkable women who have had a profound influence on my life and in my career. Not only have they lent me a hand up the proverbial ladder of success, but they also haven't been afraid to kick me in the as*s when I needed it. Here's to "paying it forward"!


    Thanks Sonya.

     

    I love this discussion!

     

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